Tuesday, February 09, 2016
And here I was thinking that police and prosecutors only bring charges against someone when they think they have a winnable court case. With Ghomeshi, they apparently scurried to court with charges that are proving so far to be ludicrous. Was their goal not to protect women but actually just to display their contempt for the CBC and for Ghomeshi's egotistic celebrity?
I know things have reached a truly awful state when I find myself agreeing with Margaret Wente: The Ghomeshi trial turns into a fiasco:
Everybody knew a guilty verdict was far from sure. The bar for a criminal conviction is, as it should be, high. But nobody, not even the most experienced court-watchers, could have predicted how this trial would go. It has turned into a fiasco . . . .
I know the dynamics of abuse can be complex. I know that women can both love and fear their abusers. But these women were not battered wives. They were not in relationships with Mr. Ghomeshi. They barely knew him. They had no reason to fear him, and he had no power over them at all – except the power of his charm and celebrity. They could have walked away. They didn’t.
And all that’s left is their word about unpleasant encounters that may or may not rise to the standard of criminal assault.
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And how often does a progressive agree with Wente?
But I agree with you. If this is the best the Crown can do then Ghomeshi is going to walk.
Witness Three said, when being cross examined yesterday that in her previous testimony she had been deliberately misleading the court. She had omitted an occasion of consensual sex that followed the assault incident and had not previously disclosed that she had exchanged 5,000 emails with Witness 2, Lucy DeCoutere. Not good.
By 3:43 pm, at
It's hard to disagree with Wente on this one, Cathie. How did these complainants fail to disclose these events from investigators and the Crown? Surely the questions were asked and answered.
That Ghomeshi had the sexual appetites of a wolverine is admitted. Whether he criminally abused the complainants is in doubt. That said his reputation is deservedly in the crapper and his fan base is gone for good. We just don't like pervy guys. His career rested entirely on his popularity as a celebrity. That's gone.
Found myself agreeing with both Wente & Blachford
Uncomfortable with the proposition it's OK to abuse/assault someone as long as they like it and come back for more. Seems like a license to abuse the vulnerable and mentally troubled.
I have trouble commenting on the role of the women in this case. But the prosecutors? My gosh, they should all be fired ASAP.
.. I thinks Wente, Blatchford, DiManno et al are missing key aspects of the 'testimonies' .. the charges and the big picture. Im my view, the Jiani is out of the proverbial lamp.. or perhaps its Pandoras Box creaked open & out came the Ghomeshi types along with all the other proverbial scary stuff.. But... and here's my take.. Neither Jian, the grinding goring defense lawyer, Ms Henein... the Judge.. nor the lamestream media or the haters who've emerged in stsrtling numbers.. can close the lid of the box... on HOPE !
What is revealed via the testimonies is the bizarre practiced pattern of Mr Ghomeshi to utilize Assault as an opening stage of 'grooming' .. or perhaps better said - choking, slapping, punching.. or totally unwarranted touching, caressing, fondling.. are some bizarre 1st date or not even a 1st date, attempt to cut to the chase and weed out victims from those willing to be volunteers ! That's his dark perception of 'getting to 1st base' .. but really he's still just 'up to bat' when his complete lack of boundaries or fear factor takes over. Its all just bizarre complicated extreme narcissism manifesting..
The Ghomeshi assault trial, regardless of whether he walks.. has opened doors that will never be closed. Of course 3 Witnesses so far have been trashed publically.. and ridiculed by all n sundry.. but what they accomplished will take years to measure or properly recognize.. We have a poster boy for Abuse, Assault, Creepiness, Narcissism, Sexual Harassment, Abberation.. amd we get Teddy Big Ears as a bonus. If anyone thinks decent men don't far outnumber losers like Ghomeshi or his troll apologists.. they're mistaken. a seismic shift just occured.. & too bad if lamestream media are too titillated or asleep at the wheel, or as full of smug shite as that perp Ghomeshi has been revealed as... ....
"And here I was thinking that police and prosecutors only bring charges against someone when they think they have a winnable court case. With Ghomeshi, they apparently scurried to court with charges that are proving so far to be ludicrous. Was their goal not to protect women but actually just to display their contempt for the CBC and for Ghomeshi's egotistic celebrity?"
Huh? Really? It was all just to get at the CBC? By the same system that allowed the Gregory Alan Elliott case to actually go to trial? There may indeed be a pattern here, but I seriously doubt it's the one you think it is...
By 8:43 am, at
Perhaps the lesson from all of this will simply be to choose your victims wisely.
I think the prosecution should have dumped the case as soon as they found out that critical information was withheld. The credibility of the witnesses has been seriously damaged by the defense finding out about this information before the prosecution.
If the Crown had not charged Ghomeshi they would have been in trouble. Even if they knew they had a weak case, they had no alternative but to go forward. His high profile dictated it
Did he abuse the women? mOst likely
but its not beyond a reasonable doubt.
Up shot, he is finished. Crown counsel will learn to ask more questions of their witnesses.
Some men hit women for kicks and it goes on a long time before it gets dealt with. Now every one knows what might happen to them if they go out with him.
By 10:36 pm, at
Your first sentence makes no sense. The whole reason for the independence of the prosecution and the courts is so that they do not have to appease the raging masses.