Lance Armstrong is so banned from sports that the IOC can legally call in an airstrike on his location if he joins a game of pickleball, but he's here to let you know that me playing ladies' beer league hockey is a grotesque mockery of fairness in competition https://t.co/QlEA5xsJQN
— victoria scott (nsx-pilled era) (@mikurubaeahina) June 25, 2023
Best headline here:If Lance Armstrong actually believed people are pretending to be trans to cheat at sports, he would have tried it already
— Mike Drucker (@MikeDrucker) June 25, 2023
And here is the entire Deadspin article:“Notorious cheater Lance Armstrong has some thoughts on fairness in sports” is there a Pulitzer for best headline because @JulieDiCaro should win. https://t.co/KhS6LGDnqL
— Farrah Khan (@farrahsafiakhan) June 26, 2023
Lance Armstong, a cisgender man and notorious cheater with, as far as I can tell, no training in anything related to endocrinology, biology, or gender affirming care, has some thoughts on the fairness of transgender women competing in women’s sports. On a related note, irony died today.Armstrong took to Twitter to share his thoughts on the “debate” over trans women competing in sports against cisgender women. If you’re wondering what Lance Amstrong could possibly add to a bullshit “conversation” that is designed to distract from actual problems and is leading to the marginalization of trans kids across the country, you’re not alone.
I think it's common sense to have fair regulations in place that protect the safety of all involved.That looks different depending on the sport. We should be having that conversation in good faith. Any young trans woman should be permitted to compete provided she has followed through on regulations that ensure safety and fairness. That may mean waiting to compete! That's fine.At the same time, I think it's utterly absurd to suggest there weren't unfair advantages in sport until this conversation on trans inclusion. When it's a cisgender male student athlete involved, these unfair advantages are praised and sometimes take on mythological importance.Boys and young men who are significantly larger, taller, faster, and stronger than their peers are deemed to be great for sports.Girls and young women who are similarly outliers are most often said to be bad for women's sports, and that was true long before trans inclusion.The history of women's sports has seen rather disgusting policing of women's and girls' bodies.....most of the trans girls and women who compete in women's sports are average in ability. When a young trans woman is bad at sports, no one cares. But when she's good? Everyone suddenly has an opinion.The same week that the parents of three young women who are not transgender filed a lawsuit against Connecticut to bar the inclusion of young trans women in track and field events, one of the young trans women was beaten by one of the young cisgender women in a state final.Did any of y'all see that news?No, because it undermines the narrative that has driven this absurd moral panic against trans student-athletes. If reasonable adults are made to sit down talk calmly through this in good faith, it suddenly lacks its clickbait value. God forbid.I don't think this is a topic that has easy answers, but it has been so completely one-sided and so absolutely vicious against trans children ...So, yeah, when Mr. Armstrong and Ms. Jenner decided to further weaponize this complicated issue for their own benefit, I get a little angry over that. I think anger is warranted in a situation in which the lives of children are being directly affected by rightwing narcissism.When your friends and family inevitably cite this interview as something to watch, I hope you'll take the time to gently inform them of the ways in which this is all a massive grift being built on the backs of trans kids who just wanna play sports with their friends.
In his Present Age substack, Parker Molloy also writes about how creating a moral panic over trans women in sport is intended to eliminate trans people -- in his piece titled Who Asked You, Lance Armstrong, Molloy writes:Nearly all professional leagues have policies about how long athletes have to be on hormones before they can compete. A tiny number of athletes are competing, even as amateurs. There's never been a confirmed case of someone pretending to be trans so they can compete as a woman.
— Michael Hobbes (@RottenInDenmark) June 25, 2023
On a side note, Defector staff writer Patrick Redford speculates about Why Lance Armstrong is Suddenly Concerned with Fairness in Sports and you won't be surprised to learn it has to do with promoting a podcast and a new Fox reality TV show.I say this with absolute certainty: if someone offered a compromise that would outright ban trans women who’ve gone through a testosterone-driven puberty from competing in college, professional, and Olympic sports in exchange for social acceptance and legal protections in education, employment, housing, public accommodations, health care, etc., the people currently yelling for trans people to be banned from sports would reject it outright. No such compromise exists, nor is it likely that it ever would, but if this was truly about saving women’s sports and ensuring fairness, it’d be something the anti-trans activists would jump at.But they wouldn’t.
This shows the extent of anti-trans and anti-gay legislation in the US now:The "debate" about whether to allow trans people to compete alongside their cisgendered counterparts is about restricting trans rights. To frame it as a question of sporting integrity would be deeply cynical, even if a notorious cheater weren't the one making it.Armstrong's name is synonymous with breaking the rules, but it's worth remembering how comprehensive his program of cheating was. He not only pumped himself with EPO and took illegal blood transfusions, but he also ran a sophisticated, team-wide operation. ... Journalists who publicly asked questions about doping were targeted by Armstrong, and he often went above their heads to try and get them fired. This guy defending the concept of fairness is like Dracula making the case for veganism.....It's grim that someone with such a rotten reputation still feels comfortable to scrutinize trans athlete participation in sports on the grounds of fairness. But Armstrong is correct about one thing: He has no more respect to lose.
The most recent update of the anti-trans legislation risk assessment map is here for Pride month.
— Erin Reed (@ErinInTheMorn) June 25, 2023
America has cleaved into two countries for trans people... one of which they are fleeing and suffering harsh laws, and one where they are protected.https://t.co/wUvVG3otQE
And regarding New Brunswick's bright idea to require schools to deadname trans kids unless their parents approve, a lawyer reminds us that the Supreme Court handed down a relevant ruling 30 damn years ago:We are currently in an internally displaced refugee crisis, with up to 260k transgender people having already moved and an additional million considering moving.
— Erin Reed (@ErinInTheMorn) June 25, 2023
The dark red states, especially Florida, are where they are leaving from.https://t.co/Kj3SzvcAlc
Finally, on a positive note, this statement to the crowd from professional wrestler CM Punk is absolutely outstanding! "Support trans kids, support gay and lesbian rights!"RE Policy 713 and the "parental rights" arguments. This has long been settled in family law. In the 1993 seminal case of Young v Young the Supreme Court of Canada found the paramount consideration is the best interests of the child and that prevails over any rights of parents.
— Morgan Manzer (@MorganManzer) June 20, 2023
I don't know anything about modern wrestling, but a stadium full of Americans cheering for trans rights is a great reminder that most people oppose the bigotry that's on Fox News every day. https://t.co/HRJYuAyrpd
— Matt Novak (@paleofuture) June 18, 2023
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The pundits piling on Lance Armstrong all resort to name-calling to avoid discussing the real issue: whether including males in female sports is fair to females. As David French wrote recently in the NYT:
After all, when we survey the performance gap between male and female athletes, is that gap best explained by the differences in gender identity between the competitors or the differences that are inherent in biological sex? And if those differences are best explained by biological sex rather than gender identity, then any rule that wipes out biological sex as the determining factor in eligibility will undermine both the practical and legal basis for women’s sports.
We know that biological sex, not gender identity, is the salient factor. If females could compete on the same footing as males, there would be no need for a separate category. But humans are sexually dimorphic, with adult males being on average larger, stronger, faster, and more aggressive. In reality, the best female athletes lose to mediocre males, with, for example, the US Women's National Soccer Team losing to a high school boys squad or Lia Thomas going from a mid-ranking male swimmer to NCAA women's champion. Sports governing bodies were wrong to set testosterone levels as a criterion for including trans athletes in female sports, since males retain the advantages of going through puberty - greater heart and lung capacity, more efficient skeleton, greater strength and endurance - even with reduced testosterone levels. It was good to see World Athletics and World Aquatics look at the evidence and now require athletes who have gone through puberty to compete according to their birth sex.
We have a lot of experience with inclusivity and fairness in sports, and establishing new categories is how it's done. That's why we have the Olympics for able-bodied athletes, and the Para and Special Olympics for athletes with physical and mental disabilities respectively. Youth sports are divided into age groups, and combat sports into weight divisions. Fair competition is the path to inclusivity. The way to be inclusive is to create fair competition. Instead of denying females fair competition and bullying critics into silence by calling them bigots and transphobes, trans rights advocates should be pushing for a separate trans category, especially for athletes taking cross-sex hormones that give them an advantage or disadvantage against those of the same sex.
Pro trans, in practise and in the real world, is simply being pro men abusing women, their rights and spaces to accommodate another's mental condition.
Society will totally bankrupt itself trying to fulfill the delusions of the deluded if these solutions become the formula for problem solution.
Cap, and Lungta -- all professional sports associations have incorporated standards for their sports to create fair levels of competition and I expect they will continue to do so. The trans-panic we are seeing now is being created artificially by people who want to make it illegal again to be diverse. They are the fraud, not trans people.
Not so fast Cathie.... thinking that biological males shouldn't compete as females is not even remotely the same as "making it illegal again to be diverse"
It's easy to see where the "moral panic" comes from, isn't it?
Try again, Cathie, this time with apples and apples!
Lance was roided up just like majority of his competition - So one roided guy beat a bunch of other roided up guys...do I care? No.
Is it a place to hang your logic while trying to discredit what Lance has to say? No it isn't...
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Rodger, the articles I quoted from in this piece go into much more detail about the research done into so-called "men competing against women" issues and the sports associations have given these issues a great deal of study too. Conservative politicians are inflating this issue to rile up school boards and parents about a trans-panic, just like they riled up people in the mid-2000s against gay marriage ("God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve") and against gays in the military ("don't ask don't tell") - we saw the same crap happening all through the 20th century, when even being "homo" was criminalized. This kind of anti-gay talk has a long and discredible history, and these are not arguments made in good faith.
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