Wednesday, November 26, 2025

Updates: "Who cares?" is trending, Mamdani v Trump shows us 'this is the way', and some good news from xkcd

Seems like a lot of the news today was really just an update of the news from the weekend. 
So here's some good commentary and update posts: 

"Who cares?" is trending
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"Who cares?" is trending on social media across the country:

PM Carney almost appologized in the House today for having said "who cares" which he called "a poor choice of words". Meanwhile, the rest of Canada is getting ready to print it on T shirts and mugs. Many seem happy that he said it in the 1st place. I guess he'll have some 'splainin to do to DT.

— EarthOx (@earthox.bsky.social) November 25, 2025 at 8:57 PM

In Tribute to Mark Carney I add WHO CARES! He might not say it but Canadians do. Who cares! We have moved on.

— gruffy.bsky.social (@gruffy.bsky.social) November 25, 2025 at 8:38 PM

I agree. “Who Cares” and “Elbows Up” are now Canadian terms for us to move on from and ignore old man trump’s anti Canadian tantrums when he can’t get what he wants. Trump believes he can take Canada any time and when he sees the serious pushback, thinks he can punish us for being patriotic by levying tariffs on us. Petty, immature, and greedy. So, who cares?

- Nina 🇨🇦

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The Planet Democracy: Unfiltered North / Substack
The “Who Cares?” Doctrine: Canada Finally Dumped Its Toxic Ex
Prime Minister Carney’s dismissal of Donald Trump wasn’t a gaffe—it was a strategy. And while Pierre Poilievre screams in Parliament, Canada is quietly building the leverage to walk away.
It was the shrug heard around the world. When a reporter asked Prime Minister Mark Carney when he last spoke to Donald Trump, he didn’t give the usual trembling, diplomatic non-answer. He didn’t look like a hostage reading a proof-of-life script. He just sighed and dropped the most beautiful two words in Canadian political history:
“Who cares?”
He followed it up with the ultimate power move: “I look forward to speaking with the president soon, but I don’t have a burning issue to speak with the president about right now”.
Let’s be real: that is the Prime Ministerial equivalent of leaving a toxic ex on ‘read.’ For nine years, we’ve tiptoed around the White House like we were trying not to wake a cranky toddler with a nuclear button. Carney just decided to change the damn locks.
It wasn’t rude; it was a reality check. We are busy building a country; Trump is busy boycotting the G20 because he thinks South Africa is being mean to white farmers—a conspiracy theory ripped straight from the darker corners of the internet. One man is posting “tick tock” apocalypse memes on Truth Social; the other is running the free world.
....Here is the part the opposition refuses to understand: saying “Who cares?” creates more leverage than a thousand desperate phone calls. We are heading into the CUSMA review in 2026, and the Americans are already trying to weaponize it. They think they hold all the cards. They assume we are terrified. They assume we have nowhere else to go.
Carney just proved them wrong. By casually noting he has “no burning issue” to discuss, he signaled that Canada finally has a Plan B, a Plan C, and a Plan D. And for the first time in years, those options are real.
The China Thaw: We are seeing a path to negotiate with China on tariffs again, thawing a relationship that has been frozen for seven years. Trump’s entire strategy relies on isolating China; if Canada engages Beijing, we suddenly become a lot more valuable to Washington. Trump hates that. Good.
The India Pivot: Remember the diplomatic ice age? It’s over. Carney met Modi twice at the G20, launched negotiations for a deal that could double our trade, and got our ambassadors back to work. We aren’t sweeping the past under the rug—we can demand accountability and do business. We are recognizing that a 21st-century economy can’t ignore the world’s fifth-largest economy just to please Washington.
Mexico & Energy: We are deepening energy and investment ties with Mexico, turning North America into a partnership where two of the “Three Amigos” can survive without the third if they have to. The more we build with Mexico, the less we have to tiptoe around American chaos.
When we walk into those CUSMA talks next year, we won’t be the desperate partner clutching a binder and a prayer. We will be the country with a VIP pass to Europe’s $173 billion defense market and a rebooted trade pipeline with India. That is called leverage.
...Canadians are realizing that dignity is worth more than cheap milk. We are done walking on eggshells. We are done apologizing for our own sovereignty. And we are definitely done with politicians like Poilievre who think our national strategy should be “grovel harder.”
We used to ask, “What will America think?” Now the answer is: Who cares?

Another interesting post from Dean Blundell about the “fake outrage” at PM Carney’s comment regarding not having a burning need to contact the orange buffoon. From the post (emphasis mine) … “Standing in Johannesburg at the G20 — where Trump didn’t even bother to show up — Canada’s Prime Minister told reporters he expects to talk to Trump in the next couple of weeks… and then casually dropped that he doesn’t have any “burning issue” to bring up with him right now. Canada will talk trade “when it’s appropriate.” Translation: We’re good. He’s the one with the problem, and I’m busy making sure he can’t do this to Canada again. This isn’t a weakness. This is the most powerful Canadian “nah, we’re good actually” you’ve seen in your lifetime.” About the Trump tantrum over the Reagan ad / and the reaction from the peanut gallery … “Carney even told reporters he had warned Doug Ford not to air the thing, and later apologized to Trump in person for the drama — because, you know, he actually has to manage the relationship with the U.S. like a grown‑up. Conservatives in Ottawa immediately jumped on it: Carney failed, Liberals lied, they promised to fix Trump and didn’t. Same old song. And yet, here we are, with Canada sitting in a position of power nobody thought was possible when this started.” And the need to re-engage … “When 85–90% of your trade is still flowing duty‑free, you don’t sprint after every tantrum in Washington. You shore up the sectors under fire and let the long game play out. As Carney said, there’s “no burning issue” and anyone who says there is, is either part of the Trump regime or they're a Canadian traitor, Maple MAGA, or an idiot.” “Carney’s play is brutally simple: Let the courts tell us how big Trump’s tariff stick really is. Don’t sign anything long‑term while he still has maximum leverage. Walk into the next phase of talks when the legal dust has settled — not while the referee is still reviewing the play. It’s not “stalling.” It’s waiting for the Supreme Court to potentially knock a few teeth out of Trump’s bargaining position before you sit back down.”

- Anne Ward

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Mamdani v Trump shows us 'this is the way'
Here's the complete meeting video between Mamdani and Trump:

and here is a fascinating analysis written by business analyst Bruce Fanger
TLDR from Joe is Wypoxic:
Trump is a bully and Mamdani didn’t give Trump any opportunity to be THE BULLY. Since bullies are fundamentally cowards, Trump didn’t know how to deal with Mamdani, so he defaulted to fawning and trying to hone in on Mamdani’s zeitgeist (i.e., he likes to take credit for shit he had nothing to do with because he ALWAYS needs to be the center of attention).


I think anyone who is trying to negotiate with Trump should be reading this analysis. And it struck me that Carney is very calm, cool and collected whenever he is sitting beside Trump in the Oval Office - maybe Carney also knows 'this is the way'.

Good news from xkcd
Finally, I don't know how many people follow the comic xkcd but it was 15 years ago that Munroe started writing occasionally about his wife's battle with cancer and his support for her. His post yesterday covers their whole journey and it is extraordinary:

 

4 comments:

Northern PoV said...

Gawd, I hope Canadians can get over their Carney-swoon soon enough to prevent the pipeline-to-everywhere coupled with austerity madness from a complete takeover.
Who cares? Harper and Bay Street care.
And from a very different pov, I care too.

Cathie from Canada said...

Agree to disagree? I like what Carney is doing in general - I don't think a new pipeline will ever happen but if Alberta goes along for a while that's good too.

Cap said...

I agree with NPoV, pipelines are lunacy, both for the environment and as business ventures.

Consider the business side. China installed 12.6 gigawatts of solar capacity in October. That's over 3 GW per week, which is enough to power 1.2 million average American homes for a year. In other words, every two weeks, China brings on enough new solar capacity to power all the homes in Toronto (StatsCan: 2.3m private dwellings). At the same time, 10 million electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles were sold in China last year, accounting for 60% of global EV sales. Meanwhile, in neighbouring Pakistan, rooftop solar generation will exceed power demand on the national electric grid during daytime hours next year. Pakistan is expected to pay a penalty to get out of its LNG contract with Qatar. Is anyone going to be buying what we're selling by the time the pipelines are built?

Building new pipelines is like opening new typewriter factories in the 1980s. In fact, it's worse since pipelines take years to build and 40 to 50 years to recoup the investment. That's why the private sector isn't jumping in. Carney knows all this - he wrote a book on the subject. The only explanation that I can think of for his conduct is trying to keep Alberta from separating. Nothing else makes any sense.

Cap said...

It occurred to me as well that Carney may be playing for time to protect the Canadian banks that foolishly continue to invest in oil and gas. As the global shift to renewables gathers speed, the oil companies are going to be left with billions in stranded assets on their books in a few years, and there may be a bloodbath among Canadian banks.

That still doesn't explain why Carney isn't doing what sensible leaders are doing and moving us quickly towards renewable energy. I fear we're going to be left behind with the other delightful petrostates - the US, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Venezuela...